Jul 21, 2026

29. Secrets, shame, and a snow-covered dumpster (Denver)

Ezra joins J. and Pasha after getting pulled into the podcast basically by accident, then somehow ends up telling a full recovery story from newspaper clippings and secret emails to scary basements, Israel meetings, relapse lessons, and three months sober. They get into rigid recovery vs. letting things flow, why service can work even when nobody understands why, and how shame starts losing power when you just say the thing out loud. Plus: roasting Pasha as a spiritual practice, Vietnam fame, sponsor-with-benefits confusion, memory cards, and one very serious question about whether God’s plan includes shoveling snow off a dumpster.

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